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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction! Fixing of bugs can take months or years vs. US-Only Engineers where it can only take a few weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction! Fixing of bugs can take months or years vs. US-Only Engineers where it can only take a few weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.trybpo.com/offshore-vs-onshore-outsourcing-pros-and-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-122086</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even with Skype, Communicator, Webex, or any collaboration tool your offshore outsourcing ultimately will suffer from impossible implementation issues. I was just laid off from my 300000+ employee fortune 500 where mostly all development and support is done oversees. I never understood how could customers continue purchasing such buggy products and get poor quality and support. 

Now with India taking with a lot of our operations, communications for starters are very bad. Time zones make it very difficult to coordinate and have live meetings (e.g. 10am Utah, 12pm Bangalore). People there are not as ordered as we thought they could be. We continually have to track down errors in code and documentation. The turnaround is bad (40%+ or more) even with 3 different time shifts. Engineers in India prefer to make money in American dollars than in their local currency. Coming to America with HB1 is better. Lots of holidays and cultural differences makes it difficult to find people during emergencies. Sure, you get to have 4 engineers or more for the price of 1 American engineer, but still even if the Indian/Russian graduates from top 1 or 2 universities they are still slow compared to American graduates at any level. In-house copyrights is very common and I have not doubt that our code is already own by our competitors. High level customers and government agencies here in the state don&#039;t trust no one without U.S. Citizenship, which makes it hard for us to support our software with only U.S. based engineers. They don&#039;t speak other languages either. American engineers tend to speak other languages (French, Chinese, Spanish) which help with our north and south American customers a lot. Fixing of bugs can take months or years vs. non-US engineers where it used to take weeks before moving to offshore development.

All in all the good all saying “save a penny, loose a pound” is still a living proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even with Skype, Communicator, Webex, or any collaboration tool your offshore outsourcing ultimately will suffer from impossible implementation issues. I was just laid off from my 300000+ employee fortune 500 where mostly all development and support is done oversees. I never understood how could customers continue purchasing such buggy products and get poor quality and support. </p>
<p>Now with India taking with a lot of our operations, communications for starters are very bad. Time zones make it very difficult to coordinate and have live meetings (e.g. 10am Utah, 12pm Bangalore). People there are not as ordered as we thought they could be. We continually have to track down errors in code and documentation. The turnaround is bad (40%+ or more) even with 3 different time shifts. Engineers in India prefer to make money in American dollars than in their local currency. Coming to America with HB1 is better. Lots of holidays and cultural differences makes it difficult to find people during emergencies. Sure, you get to have 4 engineers or more for the price of 1 American engineer, but still even if the Indian/Russian graduates from top 1 or 2 universities they are still slow compared to American graduates at any level. In-house copyrights is very common and I have not doubt that our code is already own by our competitors. High level customers and government agencies here in the state don&#8217;t trust no one without U.S. Citizenship, which makes it hard for us to support our software with only U.S. based engineers. They don&#8217;t speak other languages either. American engineers tend to speak other languages (French, Chinese, Spanish) which help with our north and south American customers a lot. Fixing of bugs can take months or years vs. non-US engineers where it used to take weeks before moving to offshore development.</p>
<p>All in all the good all saying “save a penny, loose a pound” is still a living proof.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 22:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully underline your comments! Possibly Paul Gasparro doesn´t have experience with professional BPO companies outside USA. With Skype or other Video-Conferencing Tools it´s easy to follow up even if e.g. India or Philippines are in different time zones for North American companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully underline your comments! Possibly Paul Gasparro doesn´t have experience with professional BPO companies outside USA. With Skype or other Video-Conferencing Tools it´s easy to follow up even if e.g. India or Philippines are in different time zones for North American companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 09:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Well Said Arun.</description>
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		<title>By: Arun Prakash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun Prakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 14:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are clearly someone who has probably never gone out of america or visited a top american university.if you did you would notice less than a fifth of computer and engineering graduates studying there are american-so your claim of &quot;creativity&quot; is nonsense.The same goes for the innovation angle:I work in the risk analysis space and the products we got from places like finland,russia were far superior to those that we saw in america.you are under the delusion that higher cost = higher quality.One can also assume that the rate at hwich outsourcing is growing all those companies are not idiots,sure there is a bad case but that happens to be the exception rather than the rule.

PS: people outsourcing is good as you get BETTER quality programmers for less cost.IP except in places like china is strong.India has a IP protection office specifically set up to deal with problems.get rid of the silly xenophobia and ask your kids to study engineering rather than coming and ranting about having to compete with &quot;lower&quot; cost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are clearly someone who has probably never gone out of america or visited a top american university.if you did you would notice less than a fifth of computer and engineering graduates studying there are american-so your claim of &#8220;creativity&#8221; is nonsense.The same goes for the innovation angle:I work in the risk analysis space and the products we got from places like finland,russia were far superior to those that we saw in america.you are under the delusion that higher cost = higher quality.One can also assume that the rate at hwich outsourcing is growing all those companies are not idiots,sure there is a bad case but that happens to be the exception rather than the rule.</p>
<p>PS: people outsourcing is good as you get BETTER quality programmers for less cost.IP except in places like china is strong.India has a IP protection office specifically set up to deal with problems.get rid of the silly xenophobia and ask your kids to study engineering rather than coming and ranting about having to compete with &#8220;lower&#8221; cost</p>
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		<title>By: ShellyGurl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShellyGurl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like your writing style btw .. ;)</description>
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		<title>By: Private Villas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Private Villas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site is slightly off in Chrome it seems. Just a slight issue though. Good post.</description>
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		<title>By: Joseph Magnotti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Magnotti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michelle 

Sounds like you are suffering from a communication bottleneck.  Are you able to work directly with offshore assets?  At TryBPO, we have a &quot;cubicle next door&quot; policy that ensures agents are available by Skype, email and phone during your business hours.  This allows you to bounce ideas off remote personnel and provide feedback if something needs to be corrected.

My hunch is this is not being done at your company.  Many India based firms prefer all communication go through a head manager who usually has hos interests at heart.  Plus he is not a native speaker making feedback and open communication difficult if not impossible.

If you are interested in working with a western managed, fully open outsource provider I suggest giving us a call.  Or at least pass our information on to your manager!  ;-D  At the very least we can provide some suggestions for improving your current relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michelle </p>
<p>Sounds like you are suffering from a communication bottleneck.  Are you able to work directly with offshore assets?  At TryBPO, we have a &#8220;cubicle next door&#8221; policy that ensures agents are available by Skype, email and phone during your business hours.  This allows you to bounce ideas off remote personnel and provide feedback if something needs to be corrected.</p>
<p>My hunch is this is not being done at your company.  Many India based firms prefer all communication go through a head manager who usually has hos interests at heart.  Plus he is not a native speaker making feedback and open communication difficult if not impossible.</p>
<p>If you are interested in working with a western managed, fully open outsource provider I suggest giving us a call.  Or at least pass our information on to your manager!  ;-D  At the very least we can provide some suggestions for improving your current relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for a company that has an offshore operations unit in India and we have problems with many factors; data quality, sense of urgency, and they have trouble relating to the US Market. Yes, they make 1/10th of what we make in the US but they are not the answer for a company that is doing business in the US Market. I am always shocked to receive a presentation where the data quality is poor and the numbers are not formatted from someone with many Masters degrees. If they were a US employee they would be on a performance improvement plan. I guess you get what you pay for. Truly the worst form of outsourcing I have ever seen. Not to mention the time you spend correcting their work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a company that has an offshore operations unit in India and we have problems with many factors; data quality, sense of urgency, and they have trouble relating to the US Market. Yes, they make 1/10th of what we make in the US but they are not the answer for a company that is doing business in the US Market. I am always shocked to receive a presentation where the data quality is poor and the numbers are not formatted from someone with many Masters degrees. If they were a US employee they would be on a performance improvement plan. I guess you get what you pay for. Truly the worst form of outsourcing I have ever seen. Not to mention the time you spend correcting their work.</p>
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		<title>By: Offshore Outsourcing for Innovation? «</title>
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		<dc:creator>Offshore Outsourcing for Innovation? «</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Paul Gasparro is Co-founder and Vice President of Business Development for MapleWorks – the smart choice for on-shore software development. He posted the above blog as a response at http://www.trybpo.com/offshore-vs-onshore-outsourcing-pros-and-cons/) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Paul Gasparro is Co-founder and Vice President of Business Development for MapleWorks – the smart choice for on-shore software development. He posted the above blog as a response at <a href="http://www.trybpo.com/offshore-vs-onshore-outsourcing-pros-and-cons/" rel="nofollow">http://www.trybpo.com/offshore-vs-onshore-outsourcing-pros-and-cons/</a>) [...]</p>
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